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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 2, 2012 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: New 12/4/71 AUD

Another uncirculated Marty Weinberg recording has surfaced, from the Felt Forum run.
It should be appearing here any day now.
It's an excellent recording - the sound is comparable to the SBD - a very enjoyable listen.
Unfortunately, it's also severely incomplete, with songs missing, many big cuts in the songs, and ends abruptly in Mexicali Blues. (I wonder if Weinberg was being selective about what he taped?)
It's the only known audience tape from the run, surprisingly. There's also a story behind the tape...

Back in April '71, Weinberg had released a bootleg LP. (He had 500 copies pressed of four selections from the 1970 Capitol Theater shows. It had Morning Dew, the Other One, El Paso, and Not Fade Away.)
"A friend of mine took a copy of the record and brought it out west... Phil was particularly impressed with it. I remember after the first show [12/4] going up to the stage and saying to Phil, 'Did you like the recording?' He said, 'Oh, you're that guy? Why don't you come back tomorrow night and we'll talk.' He wrote my name down, and the next night [12/5] I showed up and I had a backstage pass waiting for me. Before the show, I went back there; it was a very big New York scene there...
I saw Bob with my friend Peter, when he sold him the guitar... My friend sold him a Gretsch Tennessean, which was a hollow body electric. It was a really beautiful guitar, and he sold it to Bobby... That's where I corrected him on his El Paso singing... I told him he was singing the song wrong. All those years he sang the wrong words... I knew the song pretty well, the original Marty Robbins version, but he just didn't listen... At the end of the song he was singing, 'Greater my true love in arms that I'll die for...' And that's not the words; the words are, 'Cradled by two loving arms that I'll die for...' He said, 'Man, thanks a lot. You're right.' And there he sang it right at the Felt Forum."
[Weinberg is correct. You can hear Weir sing "greater my true love" on 12/4, and "cradled by two loving arms" on 12/5.]

"I'm talking to Phil, and Pigpen shows up with two black hookers, and they were a head taller than he was. Pigpen wasn't that big of a guy. And they were all over him. 'Look at my fine women.' He came in with his arms around these two women with his hands around their boobs; it was a priceless image...
Phil asked he how I recorded [the LP]. I told him I was in the audience for these things, and he asked me lots of questions about what I did with my tapes... Then he told me a little bit about how they had this dream of being able to do this, of having something they'd performed the night before be out the next day... And he congratulated me on the taste I used. His words were, 'Very good taste in the selection of music for that.'"

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2012-07-02 20:16:59

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jul 6, 2012 3:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 12/4/71 AUD

I haven't been creepin round here like I used to, but when I saw this new aud pop up, I figured you'd have some thoughts on it, a la 11/12/71. I agree, nice recording, but such a shame so incomplete, esp the big Other One jam...

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Poster: JackDog Date: Jul 3, 2012 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 12/4/71 AUD

"He said, 'Oh, you're that guy? Why don't you come back tomorrow night and we'll talk.'"

I thought that he was gonna get beaten up for bootlegging. I'm surprised that Phil didn't seem to care because I thought that by this time they had already been burned by bootleggers several times. Also, how common were record pressing facilities? Did most cities have a place where you could do a small run like 500?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 3, 2012 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 12/4/71 AUD

The Dead were wobbly on the subject at that point. So you get 8/6/71, where Weir suggests the tapers move back for better sound, versus 12/31/71, where the band busts a taper in the audience accusing him of being a bootlegger.
Spring 1971 was, I think, when Dead bootleg records first started to appear.

Weinberg said, "I found a place in the city that would do small-scale pressings." Considering he lived in NYC, he probably didn't have to search that hard. He sold the records at shows for $3 (til they ran out), and it was even played on a couple FM radio stations.